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BMW Sauber F1 Team - Interview Mario Theissen

It was in Munich on 22nd June 2005, a year ago to the day, that BMW announced its acquisition of a majority stake in the Sauber Formula One team. So what better time for BMW Motorsport Director Mario Theissen to give us a mid-term report on the new outfit's progress.

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Interview with Mario Theissen.


Munich/Hinwil, 22nd June 2006. It was in Munich on 22nd June 2005, a year ago
to the day, that BMW announced its acquisition of a majority stake in the
Sauber Formula One team. So what better time for BMW Motorsport Director Mario
Theissen to give us a mid-term report on the new outfit's progress.


Hand on heart: how often have you wondered whether BMW's decision to form its
own team was the right one?
"I haven't doubted it for a second. It was really the only way to go. The
decision to line up on the grid with a BMW-led team was based on various things
we learnt in our time as an F1 engine supplier. One of these was that the role
of the engine in a team's success is generally not as great as before. And,
more than anything, we were and are in no doubt that success is only possible
with structures in place which run throughout the team. The integration of the
team's bases in Munich and Hinwil through jointly coordinated project
management is now working well. I'm pleased that we've pursued this path
towards overall responsibility. But that doesn't mean we're not constantly
analysing how we're going about things. After all, we're still in a development
phase."

How do you rate the team's progress after eight races of the season?
"Very positive. We have collected points in six of the eight rounds of the
championship so far and seen both cars finish in the points on two occasions.
The British Grand Prix went particularly well for us and we were never out of
the top four teams during the Silverstone weekend. Both our BMW Sauber F1.06
cars made it through comfortably to the top ten qualifying shootout, and in the
race itself we finished seventh and eighth without benefiting from any
retirements ahead of us. This represents a significant step forward from our
starting point last year."

Aside from the results themselves, are you happy with the advances the team has
made?
"Getting a Formula One team off the ground is never an easy task, even with the
resources of a car manufacturer and the existing infrastructure of an F1 team
behind you. We are currently in the middle of a two-year development phase. I
take my hat off to the whole team in Munich and Hinwil for what they have
achieved over the past few months. They have worked virtually around the clock.
Our first move was to link up the operations at the two locations, then we put
in place a programme for the future and introduced the measures we needed to
implement these plans. An interim car was built for winter testing, the drivers
were signed up, agreements concluded with four major partners and a separate
testing team assembled. We've already got almost 70 new team members on board,
with more set to join us gradually in due course."

Is the aerodynamics department now able to keep pace with the big teams?
"The wind tunnel in Hinwil is first-class - one of the best, if not the best of
any team on the grid. However, previously there were only enough people to run
the tunnel on a single-shift basis, whereas the top teams were already using
their facilities around the clock, as is standard. We responded by introducing
a second shift in January, and by the end of the year we should also be running
the tunnel on a three-shift basis. Stepping up the pace of development has
already borne fruit. We are committed to making improvements available for each
GP in the form of tested and approved new parts. And we've managed to do that
on almost every occasion. The correlation between our simulation work, wind
tunnel testing and the introduction of improvements in race action is extremely
encouraging."

Is it true that you're looking to expand the Hinwil facility in terms of
buildings as well as personnel?
"Yes, we've already secured planning permission for the expansion of the plant
and the new buildings should be completed by the end of next year. These will
include both offices and technical facilities. Of course, all these measures
are running alongside the race and testing programme, so for the team this
means an especially tough 2006 and 2007."

What are the team's aims for the second half of 2006?
"For our first year on the grid, we set ourselves the goal of both halving the
1.5-second per lap deficit to the leading cars which the Saubers were running
at in 2005 and improving on eighth place in the constructors' championship.
Those remain our aims for 2006 and we're well on course to meet them."

The BMW Sauber F1 Team is currently lying fifth in the constructors' standings
- is fourth place within your grasp?
"We shouldn't get carried away. Of course, you've always got your sights fixed
on the teams immediately ahead of you rather than looking over your shoulder.
But if we can keep hold of fifth position through to the end of the season, we
will have met a first intermediate target."

In the reliability rankings, only world champions Renault are ahead of the BMW
Sauber F1 Team. How have you managed to achieve such success?
"When you've got to deal with all the challenges of building up a team and
integrating its constituent parts, reliability becomes the absolute priority.
Instead of having one eye on impressive one-off performances, you first have to
get a handle on processes and negotiate race weekends with as few incidents and
retirements as you can. That's what gets you the broadest base to build on. We
too have had retirements and faults to contend with, but they have only
highlighted another positive side to the team's development: we are now able to
deal with problems at short notice. That was particularly important in Monaco,
where we were plagued by an electronics problem for a number of days."

How does the integration of the Munich and Hinwil locations work on a
day-to-day basis?
"From day one it was clear that our ways of working and thinking were very much
compatible. Maximising the potential of this joint operation has involved
blending BMW's technological expertise with the efficiency and race track
experience of the Sauber team. It's all about merging these previously separate
activities into an integrated team. This basis then has to be built up to the
point where you've got a top team on your hands. It's a long-term project, but
we can't afford to take any short cuts if we want to achieve our aims. The most
important thing on a day-to-day basis is effective communication, and this is
made possible by both the manageable distances involved and the range of
state-of-the-art communications technology available - such as data transfer
and telephone and video conferencing."

How often are you personally in Hinwil? How do you travel back and forth?
"I'm normally at my office in Hinwil one or two days a week. Meeting with
people is an important element of my work between GP weekends as well. The
journey takes just under three hours. It goes without saying that I travel by
car between the two locations - and still enjoy the drive, as long as it's in a
BMW. Hands-free systems allow me to make a few phone calls while I'm on the
road under rather less time pressure. My main office is still in Munich, where
I'm also responsible for the other BMW Motorsport projects. We're looking to
defend our World Touring Car Championship title in 2006, as well as building
further on the success of the four Formula BMW series in Germany, Asia, America
and the UK."

How do you personally deal with the two-pronged challenge created by your roles
as BMW Motorsport Director and team boss?
"There have only ever been 24 hours in day - it's a question of how you
prioritise and organise your work."

How would you sum up the competition in Formula One as a whole this season?
"We are seeing a totally new situation. The teams and cars are incredibly well
matched and there's very little to choose between them. This breadth of
competitiveness has surprised me. Nobody on the grid can be sure of getting
through to the final session of qualifying, and all the teams have to
appreciate that the battle for the top ten will go right down to the wire.
There's a lot of tension and excitement out there at the moment."

How do you see the future of Formula One?
"On the commercial side of things, there's an understanding between the teams,
manufacturers and rights holders which should form the basis for the
formulation of a new Concorde Agreement over the next few weeks. At the same
time, the FIA has presented its vision of the series' long-term development
from both a technical and a sporting point of view. If the various interests
within the sport can be brought together under one roof in this respect as
well, Formula One has all the ingredients for an extremely successful future."

How do you rate the performance of your three drivers?
"We are extremely happy with our driver line-up. Nick Heidfeld is every bit as
good as we hoped. He's strong out on the track and is making the valuable
contribution we expected he would to the development of the car. Jacques
Villeneuve, meanwhile, is proving his critics wrong. He's highly motivated and
right back in top form, which puts a smile on my face. Our test and stand-in
driver Robert Kubica is a rough diamond. I accept that it was a risk to take on
such a young and inexperienced guy as our third driver, but we have been highly
satisfied with his work and his general development. We fully expect him to
continue in this vein and I'm in no doubt that he has a future in Formula One.
However, he's still very young and we need to give him time."

Who will be driving for the BMW Sauber F1 Team in 2007?
"We will have an extremely strong team of drivers once again in 2007, but a
final decision on the line-up won't be made until the end of the season."

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